Frequently Asked Questions
General information about UCLA Olga Radko Endowed Math Circle (ORMC)
What is ORMC?
ORMC is a free math enrichment program for students from the greater Los Angeles area. The main goal of the Circle is to prepare students for success in college, grad school, and research. The secondary goal is to prepare students for math competitions.
Why was the Math Circle name changed?
The Los Angeles Math Circle was founded in 2007 by Olga Radko, who served as its director until her untimely death in 2020. Thanks to a substantial lead gift from the long term Math Circle supporter Sierra Chen, an endowment fund renaming the Math Circle in Olga's honor has been established. Please see our Donation Page for more information on supporting ORMC.
Who is the target audience of the ORMC?
ORMC enables students with a serious interest in mathematics to go much deeper and wider in their studies than the traditional school curriculum. Our students are typically among the strongest in their classroom and entire school. We have classes for all grade levels, K-12.
When and where are the ORMC sessions held?
ORMC classes take place on Sundays, in the Math Sciences building at UCLA.
Is there a fee for participation in ORMC?
ORMC is free to all students admitted into the program. The program is funded by corporate and private donors. Donations from the ORMC students' parents form a large part of the Circle's budget. The suggested donation is $300 per student per quarter. However, we appreciate donations in any amounts, no matter how small or large. Please note that making a donation does not play a role in our enrollment decisions and does not entitle your child to enroll. Thus, we recommend waiting to see if your child is admitted before making a donation.
To support the program, please visit our Support us page.
What kind of sessions should I expect at ORMC?
Topics studied at ORMC go far beyond school curriculum. By attending ORMC regularly for a number of years, you will get a well-rounded overview of topics from all fields of mathematics, from algebra and number theory to geometry and topology, including the modern day applications to cryptography, information theory and artificial intelligence. Whenever you join the ORMC, you should not expect to understand everything right away.
You will understand more and more as you get more experience.
Structure of ORMC Programs
What is the structure of ORMC?
ORMC consists of two independent programs: the Academic Year Program and the Summer Program.
What is the difference between the Academic Year Program and Summer Program?
We started LAMC in 2007 with approximately 20 high school students. At the moment, we have nearly 400 K-12 students enrolled in the academic year program. We created the summer program in 2014 to give more students an opportunity to participate in the LAMC/ORMC.
Summer program is completely independent from the academic year program.
Applications for the Summer session open up every May. The Summer session is offered to students in grades 1-12, depending on availability of instructors. If the number of applicants to a level exceeds the level's capacity, the applicants are invited to take an assessment at the end of May/early June. Assessment does not require the knowledge of concepts outside of school curriculum. Instead, we are looking for mastery of the school curriculum and creativity in problem solving.
Top students from the Summer program may be offered a spot in the academic year program, if there is any opening.
Breakdown of Academic Year Programs
BNP, short for Breaking Numbers Into Parts, the name of the book the classes are based on. The BNP classes are for students in grades K - 1. We start two BNP classes every two years.
Beginners 1: classes for students in grades 2 - 4. The classes are based on the book, Math Adventures With ORMC, Level 1, From Optical Illusions to Fighting Dragons.
Beginners 2: classes for students in grades 4 - 6. The classes are based on the book, Math Adventures With ORMC, Level 2, Ciphers, Functions, and Geometry of Time.
Intermediate 1: classes for students in grades 5 - 7.
Intermediate 2: classes for students in grades 7 - 9.
Advanced 1: classes for students in grades 9 - 11.
Advanced 2: classes for students in grades 10 - 12.
Advanced 3: classes for students in grades 11 - 12.
AMC 8 training: the class trains students for the American Math Competition for students in grade 8 and younger.
AMC 10/12 training: the class trains students for AMC 10/12 and AIME.
BAMO training: the class primarily trains students for the Bay Area Math Olympiad. The class occasionally trains students for USAMO and IMO.
How can I determine what level of the ORMC my child should apply for?
The application form has the list of ORMC levels with the grades they correspond to. Please note that the list might change slightly from year to year. Please always apply for the suggested grade level. If a student is admitted into the program, they will always start with the age-appropriate group. In rare cases, we move students one level up and sometimes even two levels up. This works best when it is initiated by the groups instructors, following classroom observations.
Please do not apply for a level that corresponds to a grade level higher than your child’s grade level at school.
My child is doing math 2-3 years ahead of the regular school curriculum. Should I apply for a higher level of ORMC?
No. The mathematical concepts studied at ORMC go well beyond the standard school curriculum. Most of our students are 2 - 4 years ahead of their school grade level. This in itself is not necessarily an indicator of how well they will be doing at ORMC. Please apply for the age-appropriate level. Your child will be moved up, if we determine through classroom observations that this is in the best interest of the student.
My child was in the Beginner 1 group last year. Will he be in the Beginner 2 next year?
Students in good standing are moved together as a group. Each of our levels is a two-year program. Students usually spend two years at the Beginners 1 level, two years at the Beginners 2 level, two years at the Intermediate 1 level, etc.
Enrollment for Continuing Students
My child was enrolled in ORMC last school year. Do I have to apply again for the following year?
Yes. You need to apply every quarter. This is the only way for us to know that you are interested in continuing with the program. You can be brief when answering questions on the application form. Once you submit the application, a continuing student in good standing will be enrolled automatically.
How do I know what level I should apply for next year?
The application form gives the list of ORMC groups and the corresponding grade levels.
Academic Year Program Calendar
How many sessions are there in the academic year?
ORMC follows the UCLA Academic Calendar.
The school year is divided into 3 sessions: Fall, Winter and Spring. Each session has 9 meetings, for a total of 27 meetings in each academic year.
Are there any holidays when ORMC does not meet?
Yes. Each session, Fall, Winter and Spring, we skip a Sunday or two due to a long weekend:
Fall: we skip the Sundays of the Veterans Day and Thanksgiving weekends.
Winter: we skip the Superbowl Sunday. We do not skip the Sunday of the President’s Day weekend.
Spring: we skip the Sunday of the Memorial Day weekend.
We meet on all other Sundays that fall into our academic year calendar.
Summer Program/ Session
Who is eligible to apply for the ORMC’s summer program?
The summer program/session is open to the public to give more students an opportunity to study at the ORMC. Only new students are eligible to apply. Students enrolled into the Academic year program the year that precedes the summer session are not eligible to apply for the Summer session.
What grade levels are available in the summer program?
The Summer program is for students attending grades 1 - 12 in the subsequent Fall. Availability of specific grade levels depends on the availability of instructors.
What are the dates for the summer session?
The summer program starts in mid-late June and runs through mid-August. Specific dates are announced in early June of each year.
Admissions for the Summer Program
How do I apply for the summer session?
To apply for the summer session, please complete the following steps:
Create an account on the ORMC’s web page
Apply for the summer session (marked 19X, 20X, etc. where 19, 20, etc., represents the year and X represents the summer session). Each year, applications open in May.
Bring your child to an entrance assessment (approximately 1 hr long). Entrance assessment is scheduled in late May-early June.
Students who qualify after taking the assessment are admitted into the program.
If my child is admitted into the summer session, will he/she be able to continue in the Academic Year programs?
Summer program is completely independent of the Academic Year Program. Students admitted into the summer session do not automatically continue in the Academic year program. Academic year program for grades 3-12 is usually full with students continuing from the previous year. If there are any openings, they are given to national winners of Math Kangaroo (places 1-20) or Honor Roll students on American Math Competitions and/or top students from the summer program.
Curriculum
My child is not enrolled in the ORMC. Can we still study the ORMC curriculum?
Yes. Our elementary school curriculum is based on our books, available on Amazon. Our middle and high school handouts, published on our webpage, are in the public domain. They are available in the ORMC’s archive.
Handouts from the current academic year are available in the ORMC’s calendar.
Math Competitions
What competitions are offered at the ORMC?
ORMC is a proctoring site for the following competitions:
AMC8 (American Math Competition for grades 8 and below. The AMC 8 is a 25-question, 40-minute, multiple-choice examination in middle school mathematics designed to promote the development of problem-solving skills. The AMC 8 provides an opportunity for middle school students to develop positive attitudes towards analytical thinking and mathematics that can assist in future careers. Students apply classroom skills to unique problem-solving challenges in a low-stress and friendly environment.
AMC8 is appropriate for ORMC students in grades 7 and 8. In rare cases, exceptionally strong 5th and 6th graders may benefit from participation.
AMC takes place on a Tuesday in November. We proctor the students after school hours. To take AMC8 at ORMC, you will need to register on our web page. Space is limited due to classrooms and proctors availability. Priority is given to current ORMC students in good standing.
Please visit the AMC8’s web page to learn more about the competition.
Art of Problem Solving has an archive of AMC8 questions and solutions available as a resource:
AMC10 and AMC12 (American Math Competition for grades 10 and below, and for grades 12 and below)
The AMC 10 and AMC 12 are both 25-question, 75-minute, multiple-choice examinations in high school mathematics designed to promote the development and enhancement of problem-solving skills.
AMC10 is appropriate for ORMC students in grades 9 and 10, while AMC12 is appropriate for ORMC students in grades 11 and 12. Sometimes, younger students can benefit from participation. The best way to find out if the competition is the right fit for you is to solve problems from past contests. You are also encouraged to talk to the lead instructor from your group for a recommendation.
The AMC 10/12 provides an opportunity for high school students to develop positive attitudes towards analytical thinking and mathematics that can assist in future careers. The AMC 10/12 is the first in a series of competitions that eventually lead all the way to the International Mathematical Olympiad (see Invitational Competitions).
AMC10/12 are offered by the Mathematics Association of America (MAA) on two dates in February, date A and date B. In most years, ORMC proctors the competition on one date only, with the date selected taking into account our students’ preferences, as well as availability of rooms and proctors.
Many high schools also offer proctoring of AMC10/12. Please check with your school to see if you can take the contest there.
Since date A and date B competitions have different problems, you can officially take AMC10/12 on date A in one location and on date B at another (or even the same) location.
Art of Problem Solving has an archive of AMC10 and AMC12 questions and solutions available as a resource:
AIME (American Invitational Math Exam) and USAMO (USA Math Olympiad)
AIME and USAMO are the 2nd and the 3rd round of the national Olympiad. Students need to perform well on AMC10/AMC12 in order to qualify for AIME. Strong performance on AIME is necessary to qualify for USAMO.
Please note that you are not eligible to participate in AIME and USAMO if you did not qualify through high performance on AMC10/AMC12.
We proctor AIME and USAMO for all students who qualify by taking AMC10/12 at ORMC.
Please see the AIME’s and USAMO’s web pages for details.
Math Kangaroo is nationwide contest for grades 1-12, offered on the 3rd Thursday of March each year. The format is 24 questions for 75 minutes in grades 1-4, and 30 questions for 75 minutes in grades 5-12. The contest is very popular, and advanced registration is required. We have space for approximately 90 students whom we can proctor at ORMC. As soon as the contest is announced, we recommend registering as soon as possible (i.e., the same day), as the space quickly fills up. Every year, more and more proctoring sites for Math Kangaroo open up throughout Los Angeles. Please check Math Kangaroo’s web page to see if there is a MK proctoring site in your area.
For more information, please visit the Math Kangaroo’s web page at:
The Bay Area Mathematical Olympiad (BAMO) consists of two exams, each taken by hundreds of students, with 5 proof-type math problems to be solved in 4 hours. One exam, BAMO8, is for students in 8th grade and under, and the other, BAMO12, is for students in 12th grade and under. They are held on the last Tuesday of every February. ORMC serves as a proctoring site for BAMO.
BAMO is a unique contest, similar in structure to USAMO, yet not requiring any prequalification. Solving even one of the problems on BAMO is a big achievement.
To get an idea of the style and level of the competition, please go to the competition’s archive.
Are ORMC students required to participate in any of the competitions?
While ORMC serves as a proctoring site for several competitions, ORMC students are not required to participate in any of these. Taking part in a competition is a very individual decision, especially for younger students. For some students preparing for math contest provides motivation and gives structure to their studies. Others might find the stress and time pressure in a competition to be too limiting. We support and guide our students in making the choice, which is right for them.
Can a student who is not enrolled into ORMC participate in any of the competitions that are proctored at ORMC?
Math Kangaroo: Due to space limitations and the popularity of competition, we do not have the capacity to proctor students not currently enrolled into ORMC for Math Kangaroo.
AMC8, AMC10, AMC12: Occasionally, we have a handful of slots which we can offer to students not currently enrolled in ORMC. Please check with the ORMC’s director, Dr. Oleg Gleizer, by writing at prof1140g@math.ucla.edu at least 2 weeks before the competition you are interested in.
AIME, USAMO: if we have any ORMC students taking AIME/USAMO at UCLA, we can usually proctor 1-2 additional students who qualified at another location.
Bay Area Math Olympiad: Depending on the how many ORMC students participate in BAMO, we can offer seats to a few more students.
Supporting the UCLA Olga Radko Endowed Math Circle (ORMC)
Is there a fee for attending ORMC?
ORMC is a free program. While we ask parents to support us by making a tax-deductible donation, this is not mandatory and is not a factor in enrollment decisions. The suggested amount is $300 per students per quarter. However, we value and appreciated donations in any amount and aim for 100% of families participating in the donation drive instead of focusing on the amount of each individual donation. We suggest waiting until your child is admitted into the program before making a donation.
How can I donate to the program?
An online donation can be made by following the link… and selecting “Current Use Fund”. Please select the “In Honor of “ field and add your child’s name there. This will help us to link your donation with your account on ORMC’s web page.
You can also donate by check made payable to UCLA Foundation. The check can be given to the lead instructor of your child’s group or to ORMC’s director, Dr. Oleg Gleizer. You can also send the checks by mail to:
Oleg Gleizer
UCLA Mathematics Department
520 Portola Plaza, MS 6363
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1555
Classroom Policies
Are parents allowed to attend ORMC sessions?
We do not allow parents in the classrooms on a regular basis. If you are interested in observing a specific level or a specific class, please write to Dr. Oleg Gleizer, director of the ORMC, at prof1140g@math.ucla.edu
Can my child bring a snack to the class?
We do not allow food of any kind in our 1 hour classes (Breaking Numbers into Parts (BNP), Beginner 1 and Beginner 2). A water bottle is fine.
Groups for older students that meet for 2 hours take a small break in the middle of the meeting. Students can have a snack during the break, but not inside of the classroom.
How can my child remain in good standing and have a spot reserved for the next ORMC session?
To be in good standing, students need to meet the following criteria:
1). Attend ORMC sessions regularly. If your child misses 2 or more classes, they may lose priority enrollment for the next session.
2). Be an active participant in ORMC sessions, i.e., demonstrate sustained interested in the subject matter studied in class; complete assigned homework; make progress in their learning.
3). Have no disciplinary problems or other classroom-related issues.
How can I find out how my child is doing in the program?
Lead instructor of your child’s group has the most up-to-date information on your child’s progress in the program. You can briefly talk to the lead instructor after the class, when you pick up your child from an ORMC session. You can also write to the lead instructor by email. Different groups may have different methods of tracking progress. It is best to communicate with the lead instructor to find out how your child is doing.
How can my child be moved up to the next level?
ORMC students usually move up together as a group. In rare cases, when the group instructors observe that the student cannot be adequately challenged within the level he/she is enrolled in, we consider moving the student in question to the next level. This usually works best when initiated by the group’s instructors. The final decision about moving up a level is made by the ORMC’s director, Dr. Oleg Gleizer.